[cap-talk] Language-based safety - contest

Karp, Alan H alan.karp at hp.com
Tue Nov 16 11:05:20 EST 2004


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cap-talk-bounces at mail.eros-os.org 
> [mailto:cap-talk-bounces at mail.eros-os.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Reid
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 6:09 PM
> To: General discussions concerning capability systems.
> Subject: Re: [cap-talk] Language-based safety - contest
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2004, at 11:59, Karp, Alan H wrote:
> > MarkM wrote:
> >> The contest? I'll give you the answer I'm sure you expect: 
> break E. 
> >> It is indeed all open source. The links I previously sent 
> out should 
> >> be a good guide for getting you started.
> >> As for a prize, ...
> > ...I'll put up some money. ...
> 
> Bruce Schneier on "The Fallacy of Cracking Contests":
> 
> http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-9812.html#contests
> 
> I realize that what is being proposed isn't exactly the same 
> situation, 
> but it resembles what is described in the article, from a 
> distance. You 
> may wish to take this into account.
 
Schneier's objection is that people running these contests claim
security is proven when no one claims the prize.  The difference here is
that MarkM won't be making any additional claims of security because E
hasn't been broken.  He'll just go back to the drawing board if it is.
 
> 
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> Kevin Reid                            
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