[cap-talk] Re: First point of consensus
Tyler Close
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Wed Feb 9 23:25:52 EST 2005
David Hopwood and Alan Karp have made similar comments about the
advantages of the petname toolbar over the address toolbar. Maybe this
is the root of a consensus statement.
On Feb 9, 2005, at 3:55 PM, David Hopwood wrote:
> Tyler Close wrote:
>> Talking about the petname toolbar solely in terms of degree gives the
>> impression that a highly skilled phisher will defeat an educated and
>> alert petname toolbar user. I think we can reach consensus that this
>> impression is false. What do you think?
>
> How about this:
>
> When users rely on domain names or the address toolbar, they
> do not have sufficient information to avoid phishing attacks, no
> matter how alert they may be. When user rely on pet names, they do
> have the required information.
On Feb 9, 2005, at 10:45 AM, Karp, Alan H wrote:
> The problem with the location field in a browser is that it doesn't
> give
> adequate information to make an intelligent decision. The Pet Name
> Toolbar does. It gives me a chance to get it right. That doesn't mean
> that I will always get it right, though. I might be sleepy, drunk, or
> simply distracted. However, unlike the situation today, I'll at least
> have been given the information I need.
>
How about:
"A petname toolbar provides a reliable indication of a trust
relationship between a user and a website. This indication enables user
detection of phishing attacks. A domain name display fails to
communicate this information, leaving the user vulnerable to a phishing
attack."
By using the phrase "enables detection", this statement covers only the
function of the petname toolbar and leaves open the question of whether
or not users will understand the petname toolbar, and benefit from the
function. Hopefully Ping will be able to give us a stronger statement
after some user testing.
Do I have any takers?
Tyler
PS
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. It's clear that
a lot of time and effort has been expended.
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