[cap-talk] Second ABAC Google talk is now up

[Sandro Magi]

I think the discussion of the academic history in the literature
detracted a bit from the distinction you were trying to draw between
permission and authority. I think the point is better made by focusing
on the concrete examples you provided in the talk, ie. setting up a web
server to circumvent permission limitations, and then abstracting it to
the reference graph.

The web server example might be a bit of a stretch for some people, but
there are workable alternatives, such as the unix 'write' command, if
there are objections.

I think that the academic history should be a side note, more like a "so
why hasn't anybody done this before? They have!" Of course, this depends
on the audience, as academics may be more interested in hearing how this
information relates to prior research. However, covering prior research
too early carries the danger of running into bias or objections over
your interpretation before your point is made.

Just my 2 cents. :-)

Sandro

Mark S. Miller wrote:
> Kenton Varda wrote:
>> I thought it was sort of hard to follow what overall points you were 
>> trying to make in the talk.  The information seemed to be there, but it 
>> wasn't always clear where you were going with it (or, it wouldn't be 
>> clear if I hadn't been familiar with the topic already).  Perhaps you 
>> could try stating your thesis more clearly before getting into the 
>> details, and repeat it now and then as you go.  Emphasize it so that 
>> people can more easily understand what statements are key points and 
>> what statements are just background information.
> 
> Good suggestions. Thanks.
>