[cap-talk] A better reference for the "capabilities propagatetoo easily" argument

Karp, Alan H alan.karp at hp.com
Thu Aug 2 01:02:59 EDT 2007


MarkM wrote:
> 
> I accept that this definition is meaningful and internally consistent.
> However, it differs so completely from historical usage as to be worse
> than useless. For example, by this definition, even a simple ACL
> system implements mandatory security: If Alice creates file F, she
> owns file F. If Alice does not put Bob on F's ACL, then from Bob's
> point of view, his inability to access the file is mandatory. Try
> telling any security person not on cap-talk that even conventional
> ACLs implement mandatory security! (On second thought, please don't
> try this.)
>
That's why my definition refers to "neither party in the rights
transfer".  That would make it mandatory for both Alice and Bob in your
example.
 
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