[cap-talk] "Same" key

Mark S. Miller markm at cs.jhu.edu
Tue Feb 6 22:47:45 CST 2007


Jonathan S. Shapiro wrote:
 > At the very least this is the terminology that Coyotos, EROS, and KeyKOS
 > have been using since the the late 1970's, though "facet id" used to be
 > called "data byte".

Jonathan S. Shapiro wrote:
> Not so. The terminological habits that Shap has adopted (with the
> substitution of facet id for data byte) from the last 37 years of OS
> literature on capability systems, notably including Hydra, CAP, the
> papers on the Chicago Magic Number machine, KeyKOS, and others.
> 
> Sorry, Mark. You aren't going to pin this on me exclusively. The
> difference of opinion and terms is very real, and it reflects two very
> well established communities.


I'm not trying to pin this on you, I'm trying to understand. Can everybody 
please just calm down?

Regarding the KeyKOS literature, I'm confused about what they mean by 
"object". The KeySAFE paper in particular is careful to distinguish "TCSEC 
object" from "KeyKOS object" and to always use the prefixed form for the 
latter. Can any of the KeyKOS crowd/community clarify what the KeyKOS 
literature meant by "object"? Is the KeySAFE paper consistent with your usage 
elsewhere?


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     --MarkM


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