[cap-talk] charging for spam. What are the implications

Valerio Bellizzomi devbox at selnet.org
Tue Jan 23 18:21:28 CST 2007


I'm sorry, there are alredy better ideas on this topic, take a look at
http://mengwong.com/rssemail/reversals.png
or the papers at http://mengwong.com/rssemail/
There is also a talk online at
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-985396858578246176

val


On 23/01/2007, at 14.16, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:

>There is another solution to this,
>1. The mail client accepts mail based on a senders whitelist,
>2. Messages from senders not in the whitelist are put into a quarantine
>folder and have to be approved,
>3. The quarantine folder accepts only one message per sender until the
>sender is added to the whitelist,
>4. Messages that are not accepted are silently dropped.
>
>
>val
>
>
>On 22/01/2007, at 21.27, John Carlson wrote:
>
>>I think that the only way that charging for spam is going to work is:
>>1.  You have to give the recipient a one time revocable capability to  
>>charge the sender.  If it's not revocable, then companies can  
>>essentially steal money from each other.  If the capability is  
>>revoked by the sender, the message disappears if it hasn't been read.
>>spam cannot contain links which will notify the sender when the  
>>message has been received.
>>2.  Corporate accounts will need to be protected from disgruntled  
>>employees sending out spam the day they leave.
>>3.  If corporate accounts are protected, then corporations can spam  
>>and blame it on disgruntled employees.
>>4. Thus everyone will need to be personally responsible for the spam  
>>they send.  Not a bad idea!
>>5.  Corporations can choose to reimburse employees for the spam they  
>>send.
>>6.  Spam should be hashed, and duplicates discarded.
>>
>>Again the spam is just used to establish an initial communication and  
>>contain information about identity (a certificate chain).   
>>Thereafter, capabilities are used to communicate.
>>
>>John
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