[cap-talk] CapDesk demo, capability demos in general - e.g. on the Web?

[Karp, Alan H]

Jed wrote:
> 
> Perhaps to counter those who believe there are no working
> capability systems around it might be a good idea to get
> more such video demos, e.g. of Plash and Polaris as well.

Polaris isn't a capability system.

> Better some
> light female voice perhaps?  Look how easy this is?
> 
You're treading on some dangerous territory here :)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cap-talk-bounces at mail.eros-os.org 
> [mailto:cap-talk-bounces at mail.eros-os.org] On Behalf Of Jed Donnelley
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:47 PM
> To: General discussions concerning capability systems.
> Subject: [cap-talk] CapDesk demo,capability demos in general 
> - e.g. on the Web?
> 
> On 10/4/2007 3:49 PM, Mark Miller wrote:
> > On 10/4/07, Jed Donnelley <jed at nersc.gov> wrote:
> >> I wish I had a better demo of CapDesk, but here is
> >> the one that Marc Stiegler gave in the Google Tech
> >> Talk series:
> >>
> >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7961423532989255419#20m16s
> > 
> > From previous correspondence, I know that you have already installed
> > and run E. As a result, you probably already have a working CapDesk
> > installation on your computer without realizing it. Either 
> MarcS or I
> > would be more than happy to show you how to run it.
> 
> That would be great!  However, what I was really referring to
> is a better demo (e.g. video, but perhaps also interactive?)
> on the Web that I can point people to.
> 
> MarcS's demo above does show CapDesk, but it does so in the
> context of the Google talk and perhaps goes into too many
> details in some areas and misses some points in others.
> 
> What I'd like to have is something like what you (MarkM)
> show to people (e.g. at Usenix) video recorded and available
> on the Web.  Perhaps something better would be such a
> "video" demo followed by the opportunity for people to
> take actions themselves (e.g. with some sort of Javascript
> simulation or the like), but I'm just looking for something
> to get started.
> 
> For now I'm using the above Google TechTalk with the
> #20m16s mark (should I say Marc? :).  If there's something
> better, please point me to it.  I keep using wideword:
> 
> https://wideword.net/doc/JB0FrMOKuYmTM%2F3jDMTP0w%3D%3D
> 
> as my "you can touch it" capability demo.  Maybe there is
> something better for that purpose as well?
> 
> Perhaps to counter those who believe there are no working
> capability systems around it might be a good idea to get
> more such video demos, e.g. of Plash and Polaris as well.
> Others?  I'd love to have a whole collection of such demos
> that I can point people to who assert that there are no
> working capability systems extant.
> 
> So...  I guess if I get CapDesk and Plash going on some
> systems of mine I can video my own darn demos.  Is that
> something I should take on?  My voice may not be the best
> to have on such demos.  While I like MarcS' CapDesk demo
> above, his voice strikes me as a bit strident in that
> presentation.  Might turn some people off?  Better some
> light female voice perhaps?  Look how easy this is?
> 
> --Jed  http://www.webstart.com/
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