[cap-talk] Any hope in RSA 2008?
John Carlson
john.carlson3 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Apr 4 11:32:41 CDT 2008
My comment would be is I don't know what research there is currently,
so I "complain" to figure out if someone already has an answer.
In some cases, I don't see ways of downloading research papers (maybe
I'm missing something on the ACM and IEEE sites). Or it's hard to tell
the search engine exactly what I am searching for, or I'm not patient
enough to wade through search results (it's a lot easier to read email
than an academic paper).
This is cap-*talk*. Perhaps there should be a cap-research list and
a cap-complainer list. Oh, and a cap-metacomplainer list.
I agree that I could be more of the solution and less of the problem.
That's why I have taken the approach that I could be a tester of such
systems, such as E/CapDesk and Waterken. I have tried to test
EMonkey, but I haven't figured out how to do it yet. Maybe I could
test Joe-E too? Where is the download site?
John
On Apr 4, 2008, at 7:39 AM, David Wagner wrote:
> Folks on the Linux kernel mailing list seem to have a saying for
> when someone says "Wouldn't it be nice if the kernel had feature X?"
> (when that someone seems to be implicitly expecting someone else to
> implement feature X for them). The response is: "Send code." The
> implication being that, of course, code is often a lot more useful
> than gripes. And for those who aren't willing or able to write code
> or to provide resources (money) to enable others to write code, well,
> maybe they shouldn't complain too much.
>
> That brings me to the complaints about the current state of research
> on
> computer security. To that, I can only say: "Send research." I'm of
> the opinion that leading by doing (by forging ahead and setting the
> kind
> of example you'd like to see others follow) tends to be more effective
> than complaining that everyone else's work in this area sucks. Before
> criticizing researchers too harshly, spend some time in their shoes.
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