[cap-talk] Midori in The Register

Mike Samuel mikesamuel at gmail.com
Tue Aug 5 15:39:07 CDT 2008


Rather than speculate, can we agree on a few questions for the Midori folk?

They may think the Register article unfair, and may be trying to figure out
how to frame their charter for external consumption, so might be receptive
to questions right now.

Perhaps something along the lines of:the below, though I'm sure the phrasing
can be improved
(1) Does Midori allow/require applications to be written in an
object-capability model?
(2) Will libraries written for applications that run under Midori preserve
object-capability discipline?
(3) Does Midori include any UI mechanism that allows users to convey
authority via the normal course of interacting with an application?

mike




2008/8/5 Ivan Krstić <krstic at solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu>

> On Aug 5, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Jonathan S. Shapiro wrote:
> > But what I am saying is: managed code does not make the claim that
> > James
> > is concerned about, so there is no conflation. The fact that James
> > *alleges* that managed code systems make this claim is not a
> > deficiency
> > of the managed code systems. It is merely a misrepresentation by
> > James.
>
>
> I didn't read his message as making such an allegation. I think he's
> concerned about insufficiently knowledgeable *people* coming to
> mistakenly conflate managed code and security. I shouldn't be speaking
> for James, really, but after talking to a lot of people in the
> industry, that's a concern I share.
>
> --
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