[cap-talk] Systems and people and papers

[Jed Donnelley]

On 2/1/2008 3:22 PM, Charles Landau wrote:
> At 2:08 PM -0500 2/1/08, Bill Tulloh wrote:
>> On Feb 1, 2008 1:36 PM, Jed Donnelley <capability at webstart.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  >I think most of the information I have is still too immature for
>>  > >Wikipedia.
>>
>> Perhaps I'm just being old fashioned, but I am still a bit reluctant
>> to start putting up a lot of what are essentially notes up on
>> Wikipedia.
> 
> Wikipedia's policy 
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability) is that 
> material has already been published by a reliable source. These notes 
> don't necessarily pass that test.

Not that the literal text itself (e.g. the list, the people,
the references) has already been published by a reliable
source, but that the material information can be verified
from a reliable source.

I believe the material that we post should meet
these criteria.  For example, I consider first
hand information from an author of a work
(e.g. a developer of a system, an author of
a paper) should be considered verifiable from
a reliable source.  Anything we did out of
documents of course meets the criteria.

I'm sure I don't need to point out that while
the official policy of Wikipedia is:

"Editors should provide a reliable source for
quotations and for any material that is challenged
or is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed."

in practice I believe our contribution will shine
as a beacon of reliable information in a sea of
generally questionable content - particularly
in an obscure area like capability security:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capability-based_security

If we can't meet the criteria of having more
reliable sources for our posting of systems,
people, and papers than:
___________
Research and commercial systems

     * KeyKOS
           o EROS - The Extremely Reliable Operating System - KeyKOS successor
                 + CapROS - EROS successor, project to further develop EROS code base for commercial use
                 + Coyotos - EROS successor, for research
     * kaneton
     * Cambridge CAP computer
     * Carnegie Mellon University C.mmp with Hydra (operating system)
     * Carnegie Mellon University CM* with StarOS
     * IBM System/38 and AS/400
     * Intel iAPX 432
     * Plessey System 250
     * Symbian
     * Flex
____________

Then I agree we shouldn't post it.

Post away.  If need be I'll do a first posting to
"break the ice".  From then on everything should
be an improvement.  I'd like to see something there
by the end of the weekend.

--Jed  http://www.webstart.com/jed/