[cap-talk] Authority vs. Information Flow
Toby Murray
toby.murray at comlab.ox.ac.uk
Sat Feb 16 07:38:16 EST 2008
On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 08:41 -0800, Charles Landau wrote:
> At 4:19 PM +0000 2/13/08, Toby Murray wrote:
> >The question is "If Alice has authority over Bob,
> >does it follow that there exists an information flow from Alice to Bob?"
>
> If Alice has read authority over Bob, the information flow is only in
> the other direction.
>
> >Example 2: In which Authority exists, but perhaps not Info Flow
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Now imagine the same scenario, except that now there is a third party,
> >Dave. Dave also has a button like Alice, that turns on the light in
> >Bob's room when it is pressed. Both Alice and Dave now have control over
> >the light.
> >
> >We presume further, that Bob's behaviour is fully specified and does not
> >permit the possibility that Bob
>
> I think you mean Dave.
Absolutely. Thanks for pointing out the mistake.
>
> >will refuse to push his button if Alice
> >hasn't already pushed hers. We make a symmetric assumption for Alice.
> >Whoever pushes their button first, then, causes the light to turn on.
> >
> >Both Alice and Dave now have authority to cause Bob to be able to see
> >the light turn on. But can either of them pass information to Bob?
>
> There are techniques for passing information through noisy channels.
> If you consider Alice to be the signal and Dave the noise, it should
> still be possible to pass information in this case.
I tend to agree, on reflection. Thanks for the insight.
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