[cap-talk] SSL protection racket

Jed Donnelley jed at nersc.gov
Tue Feb 26 14:30:43 EST 2008


On 2/26/2008 6:02 AM, John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jed Donnelley <capability at webstart.com> wrote;)
>>  Seems to me that all your criteria for a protection racket are
>>  met.  If you believe that "Simply throwing up irritating dialogs at
>>  users does not count as <a threat to do> harm.", you must not have
>>  experience with a business that lives off its Web site.  Such
>>  "irritating dialogs" can literally kill a Web site.
> 
> Just use http. I've often browsed https websites, and Firefox tells me
> they have some security problem. But Firefox never tells me that http
> sites have security problems!
> 
> Clearly http is much more secure.  ;)

Heh.  This might be OK except for the instances where we want
to protect information on the wire - such as login passwords.
We are required by policy to use end-to-end encryption to protect
such passwords on the wire.  To my thinking there is a good reason
for such a policy - to thwart network sniffing of such sensitive
information.  Got an alternative to https for such an end-to-end
encryption facility for a Web server?  Remember that it must work
with all the widely available Web browsers that our customers are
likely to have on their desktops.

--Jed  http://www.webstart.com/jed/




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