[cap-talk] Capabilities giving up control? (was: Re: A paper on web-keys)

Toby Murray toby.murray at comlab.ox.ac.uk
Fri Jan 18 22:13:07 EST 2008


On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 23:02 -0800, Jed Donnelley wrote:
> >Of course, this is coming from a strong advocate of the object-cap model
> >who is (in this instance) trying to apply real-world insights about
> >real-world security to computer security, so this is certainly not  a
> >critique of the object-cap model nor capability security,
> 
> It isn't?  Why not?  Aren't you raising the same issue
> the questioner was raising at David Wagner's talk?:

Yes. But
1. I believe that current experience with the object-cap model indicates
that the cases in which non-delegatable authorities will be essential
are probably few at best.
2. We have a means to express NDA within the object-cap model for these
cases -- if they do exist in practice.

Hence there is no problem with the model.




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