[cap-talk] Session failures

[Valerio Bellizzomi]

On 27/03/2008, at 18.01, Jonathan S. Shapiro wrote:

>On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 14:19 -0700, Raoul Duke wrote:
>> b) why slow? any thoughts on how to address that? maybe it is just
>> part and parcel?
>
>Several reasons:
>
>1. Long ago, I consciously decided that somebody had to take on the
>mountain. It takes a staggering amount of time to accumulate the
>necessary end to end understanding to start to solve it.
>
>2. Ten years ago there was a significant body of people who wanted to
>work on EROS, but EROS was premature at that time. Today, the most
>nearly analogous coyotos-dev list has about the same membership, but few
>people expressing active interest in contributing. Perhaps we haven't
>yet hit the point where they can, and perhaps the nature of the notes
>coming from me has been less solicitous.
>
>Advice here would be welcome: how can we build a more effective
>community? Several attempts at wiki setup have failed for various
>reasons, and I think we are probably "advertising" in the wrong places.

The community site was a great idea, I have no idea of why it went off.

>
>3. I had to make a living along the way.
>
>4. This stuff is surprisingly hard to do, I am very conservative about
>quality, and I am perhaps uncomfortable about the quality that results
>from the typical "ad hoc" open source development effort. Perhaps I need
>to overcome that, or perhaps we need to bring Coyotos to the point where
>independent sub-projects on top of it are feasible.

I think the big issue on point 4 is the absence of a "programmer manual",
and perhaps an "installer manual".

>
>
>On the other hand, we really *are* making progress at this point, so
>perhaps progress is not as slow now as it was once.
>
>
>shap
>
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