[cap-talk] Reducing Ambient user authority in a Type Safe/Memory Safe OS.
Karp, Alan H
alan.karp at hp.com
Thu Dec 17 10:42:32 PST 2009
Ben Kloosterman wrote:
>
> 1) However I still want to cover upgrading the capability from say
> browse to R/W when a browse capability is received via iPC.
Then you are enabling confused deputy attacks.
> 2) As per my other message how to handle directories trees , rights to
> non capability servers and cases where the user does not have rights.
> Eg a Windows UAC popup could be useful, eg support personnel turns on
> denied rights popups policy, customer starts app , right is denied
> prompts for other user id , support person enters and then transfers
> the Capability to the app permanently or temporarily. I termed this
> escalation also even though it looks like UAC then mechanism is very
> different as it is just used to transfer the Capability.
>
This doesn't sound like a very scalable approach. Do I have a support person sitting in my cube to enter credentials every time one of my requests is denied?
>
> Most rights in these organizations will be centrally distributed, how
> is this handled do you pass this into the File Dialog ( eg what files
> it can see) and Setup installer. Even on my own PC if I let other
> users use it I don’t want them to see all files how do you restrict
> this ? Does capdesk sit on top of User/Group/Everyone rights ?
>
The general idea is that the user has a petname for each capability. If the user doesn't have a capability, there's no name. That is what the CapDesk file chooser does while sitting on top of a Linux or Windows file system.
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