[cap-talk] "ambient authority" on wiki.erights.org

David-Sarah Hopwood david-sarah at jacaranda.org
Sun Jun 14 19:22:35 EDT 2009


Rob Meijer wrote:
> On Sun, June 14, 2009 15:46, David-Sarah Hopwood wrote:
>> That is why I/we think the Wikipedia article is correct in describing
>> "ambient authority" primarily as a way of exercising permission (and
>> therefore authority) rather than primarily as a category of systems.
> 
> At this step you lost me. To me neither "a way of exercising permissions"
> nor "a category of systems" could fit a definition of "xxxxxx authority".

Well, perhaps the term should have been "ambient permission".

I am skeptical of the value of trying to change it now, though.

> I feel a definition of "ambient authority" should be described as a
> "subset" of the authority of an actor.

You might feel that, but that does not seem to be the concept that
Mark Miller and Dean Tribble coined the term "ambient authority" to
describe.

> I feel the step permission to authority is easy to make to quickly, so
> any "and therefore authority" is a line we should look at a bit sceptically.

If a subject exercises permission then it is exercising authority. That's
all that I relied on above.

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