[E-Lang] Does Sun own E?

Kevin A. Burton burton@relativity.yi.org
19 Apr 2001 00:53:08 -0700


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Tyler Close <tclose@oilspace.com> writes:

> What's to prevent Sun from taking control of E, or any other capability based
> software, using the following patents:
> 
> PN/5,781,633
> PN/5,852,666
> PN/6,161,121

Hm... seems IBM doesn't have their patent system online anymore :(

I looked up the URLs:

http://www.delphion.com/details?&pn=US05781633__
http://www.delphion.com/details?&pn=US05852666__
http://www.delphion.com/details?&pn=US06161121__


> The ERTP seems to be covered by: PN/6,161,121

> which issued on Dec 12, 2000.
> 
> The listed inventors on these patents are all on this list. How do these patents
> affect your current work. Are you sure you are not developing a captive product?
<snip>

IANAL but this doesn't mean that SUN owns E.  It just means that any E
implementations (within the US) have to license SUNs 3 patents.  If this is done
by an individual this means a lot of $$$.  :(.  E implementations outside the US
don't have this restriction.  

Fortunately the E license is the MPL which really encourages corporate
involvement.  If we can get someone like IBM involved ( which has a lot of
patents ) they could enforce a patent stalemate with SUN.

Hopefully SUN will do The Right Thing and relinquish their rights to these
patents.  :).

Kevin

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