[E-Lang] Language popularity based upon job ads

Ken Kahn kenkahn@toontalk.com
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:25:11 -0700


MarkM suggested I send this to this list. This is a technique to add to the
basket that includes measuring book store shelf space devoted to different
languages.

On a Squeak discussion list I wrote:

>> Searching www.dice.com for job descriptions including
>>
>> Smalltalk - 136 hits
>> Java - 7189 hits
>> C++ - 13437 hits
>>
>> I find these numbers interesting for what it says about the world out
there.

And Jan Theodore Galkowski <DisneyLogic@go.com> wrote:

Also interesting...


Delphi NOT (Java or Smalltalk or Squeak or JDBC or C++ or VB)

   => 66 hits

(Smalltalk or Squeak) NOT (Java or Delphi or JDBC or C++ or VB)

   => 55 hits


Java NOT (Delphi or Smalltalk or Squeak or JDBC or C++ or VB)

   => 2963 hits

C++ NOT (Delphi or Smalltalk or Squeak or JDBC or Java or VB)

   => 9299 hits

VB NOT (Delphi or Smalltalk or Squeak or JDBC or Java or C++)

   => 866 hits

 [I should have tried "Visual Basic", too, but
  I didn't.  For instance,

(VB or "Visual Basic") NOT (Delphi or Smalltalk or Squeak or JDBC or Java or
C++)

  gives 1536 hits.]

JDBC NOT (Delphi or Smalltalk or Squeak or VB or Java or C++)

    => 42 hits [admittedly a weird query]

(Java or JDBC) NOT (Delphi or Smalltalk or Squeak or VB or C++)

    => 3347 hits   [Wow!  Note the increase from
                    just "Java"]

((JDBC or Java) and (Smalltalk or Squeak)) NOT (Delphi or VB or C++ or
"Visual Basic")

    => 21 hits

((Java or JDBC) and C++) NOT (Delphi or VB or Smalltalk or Squeak or "Visual
Basic")

    => 2966 hits

((Smalltalk or Squeak) and C++) NOT (Delphi or VB or Java or JDBC or "Visual
Basic")

    => 6 hits [!]

((Smalltalk or Squeak) and (VB or "Visual Basic")) NOT (Delphi or C++ or
Java or JDBC)

    => 1 hit

((Smalltalk or Squeak) and Delphi) NOT (VB or "Visual Basic" or C++ or Java
or JDBC)

    => no hits

(Delphi and C++) NOT (Smalltalk or Squeak or VB or Java or JDBC or "Visual
Basic")

    => 22 hits

(Delphi and (VB or "Visual Basic")) NOT (Smalltalk or Squeak or C++ or Java
or JDBC)

    => 15 hits

(Delphi and (JDBC or Java)) NOT (Smalltalk or Squeak or C++ or VB or "Visual
Basic")

    => 15 hits

All these are without restrictions on U.S. location
or type of term ("tax term"), done today, 9th August 2001.