[E-Lang] Java 2 "Security" (was: Re: Welcome Chris Skalkaand ScottSmith of Johns Hopkins)

Marc Stiegler marcs@skyhunter.com
Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:13:42 -0700

Yes, face recognition is an ACL system. Indeed, a fabulously done ACL
system. Which brings up a fascinating question: if ACLs could solve all
security problems, why did humans invent keys? :-)

Like I said, off-topic but amusing. There are just enough differences
between the physical and computational worlds so that the answer to the
question may well be unuseful, but it is an interesting tack.


----- Original Message -----
From: Mark S. Miller <markm@caplet.com>
To: Marc Stiegler <marcs@skyhunter.com>
Cc: Scott Smith <scott@cs.jhu.edu>; E Language Discussions
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Lang] Java 2 "Security" (was: Re: Welcome Chris Skalkaand
ScottSmith of Johns Hopkins)

> At 04:13 PM Friday 1/19/01, Marc Stiegler wrote:
> >Students of human neurology will note that
> >there is a big chunk of the human brain custom-hardwired for the sole
> >purpose of doing facial and gesture recognition.
> This sounds like ACLs, not capabilities, as your own real world analogies
> make clear.
> face recognition == ID Badges == ACLs.
> keys == capabilities.
> In any case, security that works is vastly better than security that
> doesn't, like credit cards.  I certainly agree that it's hard to learn
> anything about the difference between secure systems by studying something
> as hopelessly insecure as credit cards.
>         Cheers,
>         --MarkM