[E-Lang] Oz vs E. MacOS. A Request. (was: Electric Communities)

[Mark S. Miller]

At 10:04 AM Sunday 9/16/01, Paul Snively wrote:
>[...] which I have felt
>compelled to think about more in the context of <http://www.mozart-oz.org>
>than E for a number of reasons that I will gladly explicate upon request
>since they are off-topic for the list.

This list is at least as much for discussing how to get E adopted as for how 
to make E good.  In other words, both the marketing of E as well as the 
technology of E are on-topic for this list.

So, given this, if you feel your explication would be on-topic, please send 
it too e-lang.  Otherwise, please send to me privately.  Thanks.


>Having spent a great deal of this list's bandwidth talking about Oz, let me
>ask the ob. E question: does the new alpha release address MacOS X?

Sadly no, not this alpha.  However, I remain committed to integrating in 
Chris' MacOS X changes for E 0.8.10.  See 
https://bugs.sieve.net/bugs/?func=detailbug&group_id=16380&bug_id=125412 .
So Chris, there's no reason to try 0.8.10alpha1 as is on a Mac.

I had originally planned to integrate these in before doing a next release.  
However, recent events have provoked talk of possible crypto crackdowns 
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46816,00.html
http://www.msnbc.com/news/627390_asp.htm
http://www.inet-one.com.my/cypherpunks/current/msg00529.html , 
so I wanted to get the currents state into coherent form and get it into 
international distribution asap.  

So, a request:

For all of you outside US borders, especially all non-US citizens outside 
US borders, could you download 
http://www.erights.org/download/stl-0-8-9-t-1/stl-E-src-0.8.9t.1a.tar.gz and
http://www.erights.org/download/0-8-10alpha/E-src-0.8.10alpha1.tar.gz , 
and hold onto these, just in case.  Thanks much!

I had already been feeling guilty for violating the Open-Source-Bazaar 
admonition to release early and often.  Recent events provide another 
impetus, so I will try to release earlier and oftener from now on.  Now that 
I'll be moving forward from 0.8.10alpha1, which has come together pretty 
well, I suspect micro-releasing will be much easier.


        Cheers,
        --MarkM