[e-lang] [Fwd: Intermetaverse group in Second Life]

[Mark S. Miller]

Interesting. Might an inter-metaverse protocol be a killer app for 
cryptographic caps?

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Intermetaverse group in Second Life
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:02:46 +0100
From: Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com>
Reply-To: croquet-dev at duke.edu, "Giulio Prisco" <giulio at gmail.com>
To: croquet-dev at duke.edu,        "Kaan Bingöl" <kaanb at kocsistem.com.tr>

So I met with Kaan and John (a Squeak expert who is not curerntly on
this list but will join) and we founded the Intermetaverse group in
SL:

http://uvvy.com/index.php/Intermetaverse

BTW I should introduce myself, I did so a few months ago but have not
be very active on this list since:

http://uvvy.com/index.php/Gp
http://metafuturing.com/#gp-en

I have not played with Croquet for months, will start again.

G.


On 2/2/07, Kaan Bingöl <kaanb at kocsistem.com.tr> wrote:
> Why don't we simply use Metaverse (or MetaverseSL). Is it too broad for a group name, or is it already exist.
> Kaan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giulio Prisco [mailto:giulio at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:27 PM
> To: croquet-dev at duke.edu; Hussayn Dabbous
> Subject: Re: Croquet vs. Secondlife regarding future development (some thoughts to share...)
>
> Sounds like a vision indeed! Of course it would be difficult to
> implement at this moment, but as all other IT technologies, metaverse
> technology is bound to move toward interoperability.
> I do not complain too much about SL, and am more optimist on its
> future now that the client has been opensourced and official
> statements on future opensourcing of the server have been made (by
> Kapor at Davos). BTW take a look at libsecondlife and opensecondlife.
> Lets decide the name of the SL group together. How about SIGmeta?
> G.
>
> On 2/2/07, Hussayn Dabbous <dabbous at saxess.com> wrote:
> > hi, folks;
> >
> > hmm. It looks like all of us have doubts about SL, but we are running around
> > right now inside SL having fun, making contacts, business, doing all sorts of
> > unbelievable things TODAY. And i do not know about any other virtual world
> > right now where this is possible to such an extend as we can do there.
> >
> > So rather instead of discussing alternatives to SL i prefer to discuss where
> > SL does fail to support us and whether Croquet can play a role there.
> > So i want to see a discussion about what people want eventually to achieve,
> > what is missing in SL to reach the goals and whether things can be improved easily.
> > Only then it makes sense to me to talk about how Croquet would fit in place.
> >
> > So for me its all about understanding SL to make Croquet a better world.
> > But not looking for something "better", than SL to replace it. im still dreaming
> > of parallel metaverses interconnected via portals or teleport. Where SL takes
> > its role maybe as sotial life platform, other virtual universes e.g. based upon
> > Croquet or others show up as they are needed. That sounds like a vision!
> >
> > Finally i dislike the idea to be member of an SL-group that thinks about how
> > to avoid SL. Isn't that a bit unfair? so we could meet without placing a group.
> > maybe eventually that makes sense. But not before it becomes clear whats up...
> >
> > just my 2 cents. If you think my doubts are pointless, go ahead and create the
> > group. But you may rethink the name ;-)
> >
> > Nevertheless id like to join the meeting .
> >
> > regards, hussayn
> >
> >
> > Giulio Prisco schrieb:
> > > I will be back in SL in a few hours and plan to create a SL Group
> > > "altVR" (alternatives to SL, including Croquet, Multiverse etc).
> > > I must be honest and say that I have some doubts about Croquet,
> > > However, lets discuss in SL.
> > > G.
> > >
> > > On 2/2/07, Hussayn Dabbous <dabbous at saxess.com> wrote:
> > >> hy there.
> > >>
> > >> yes, would be interesting to make a gettogether in SL.
> > >> i too own an island there, currently setting up a developers camp and
> > >> software related trade shows and so on. Currently the island is a big
> > >> mess,
> > >> much construction, lousy place to meet ;-) so lets take giulio's
> > >> initiative
> > >> up and go to his place. sounds great.
> > >>
> > >> It turns out to be rather unhandy that people have different names in
> > >> RL and SL.
> > >> i always loose track, who is who in the game. So what about collecting
> > >> an invitation
> > >> list here, where everybody drops his first name/second name ...
> > >>
> > >> so i'll start it right now:
> > >>
> > >> real life name              SL name
> > >> Hussayn dabbous             Hussayn Salomon
> > >> Kelly Rued                  Lotte Twilight
> > >> Giulio Prisco               Giulio Perhaps
> > >> Kaan Bingöl                 Kaan Tornado
> > >>
> > >> It would be nice if there where an agenda around before the meeting
> > >> takes place...
> > >>
> > >> regards, hussayn
> > >>
> > >> Kelly Rued schrieb:
> > >> > My SL name is Lotte Twilight. I look forward to meeting Croquet
> > >> users in SL.
> > >> > I agree that forming a group in SL to look into cross-platform
> > >> projects with
> > >> > communication or some level of integrationg between Croquet and
> > >> something
> > >> > like SL which is more user friendly at the moment.
> > >> >
> > >> > -Kelly